we're seeing it in north africa, in pakistan. in the very unstable areas of the world if they can go and thraeupb and come together. the question is can they bring the operatives to this country or work with people already in the country, what we call the inspired but not instructed, the home-grown guys. jon: i would think with all the satish kalpoe lights that we have, things that we weren't watching in afghanistan in the days up to 9/11 i think we'd be looking out for that stuff. >> we absolutely are. they get better too. th have a complex financial system. they funnel money back and forth. they are looking to exploit different opportunities. la fall when they tried to put the packages on the planes to take out cargo, they are constantly evolving and it's always a cllenge for people like ray kelly in new york city to have that readiness always available. jon: as has been said so many times the terrorists only have to get lucky once, we have to be right one hundred percent of the time. >> ten years later there is mission fatigue